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leslie charles hidden[1, 2, 3, 4]

Male 1909 - 1992  (83 years)


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  • Name leslie charles hidden 
    Born 1909  Pretoria RGD, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Gender Male 
    Census 1911  [6
    Occupation commercial artist 
    Reference Number L040 
    Died Jan 1992  Denmark Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Person ID I5463  Hidden | Descendants of John Hidden of Hungerford b. bef 1676
    Last Modified 11 Apr 2016 

    Father frederick hidden,   b. 1875, Newbury RGD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1940, Brentford RGD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 65 years) 
    Mother annie catherine law,   b. 27 Apr 1885,   d. 1980, NE hants RGD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 94 years) 
    Married 1906  Sialkot, India Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Family ID F1762  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 mary i w moss,   b. Bef 1920,   d. 2000, Norwich RGD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 80 years) 
    Married 1934  Uxbridge RGD Find all individuals with events at this location  [9, 10
    Children 
     1. derek hidden,   b. 13 Mar 1940, Uxbridge RGD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1982, Havering RGD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 41 years)
    Last Modified 11 Apr 2016 
    Family ID F1765  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 nancy gwendoline hugill,   b. 28 Sep 1920,   d. 1999, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years) 
    Married 1947  Chelsea RGD Find all individuals with events at this location  [11
    Children 
     1. Living
     2. Living
    Last Modified 11 Apr 2016 
    Family ID F1766  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Born in South Africa. Presumed to have divorced from 1st wife (mary moss),as they both remarry in 1947 . 2nd wife is nancy g hugill.
      Leslie and Nancy separated in 1978 when Leslie emigrated to Denmark. The divorce was finalized in 1979. Nancy emigrated to New Zealand in 1984 and died at Nelson, south Island in 1999. Leslie marr 3rd wife in Denmark. He died in Denmark in Jan 1992 (HHv3). Described by his sister-in-law Iris as a talented artist & musician, who earned his living as a commercial artist. "in his younger days he formed a six piece band, playing the alto sax, clarinet & violin and enlisting the help of his brother Stanley who was a reluctant musician who played the tenor sax an clarinet". (HHv3). In 1960 & 1970 he is listed in the telephone directory at Laundry Cottage, Whitchurch Hill, Pangbourne, berks. His 2 daughters with Nancy were born in 1954 & 1957 in Berkshire. They married in 1977 & 1982 respectively and subsequently emigrated to New Zealand

  • Sources 
    1. [S17939] Private Communication, Recno:12082 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:12082 Edesc:frederick charles hidden Yr: 1997 ]
      Priv Comm Norman
      FREDERICK CHARLES HIDDEN (F30) His birth is recorded in the RGI for the 4th quarter of 1875 in the District of Newbury (ref 2c 232). His Army records seem to indicate a slight discrepancy as to year of birth. They do provide us, however, with his place of birth as Speen and his home address at the time of enlistment as Donnington, both of which are within the Registration District of Newbury.
      His daughter-in-law, Mrs Iris Hidden, has shown me his marriage certificate, in which he is named as Frederick Charles Hidden, bachelor, aged 29, Sergeant in the 3rd Kings Own Hussars. The marriage took place in Holy Trinity Church, Sialkot, India, 10 November 1906. The bride was Annie Catherine Law, aged 21, spinster, daughrt of James and Winnie (?) Law. Mrs Hidden has a splendid photograph of the wedding party, which includes Frederick's brother Joseph William, also serving in the 3rd Hussars and the bride's parents, James Law being another 3rd Hussar (in uniform). I have seen also Frederick Charles's Army certificates of character and discharge. His certificate of discharge No. 30708 refers to him on discharge as of the 4th Hussars, having been posted thence from the 3rd Hussars, also having previously served in the Essex Yeomanry 2nd Reserve Cavalry Regiment. He held the K.S. & G.C. medal and the Queens Medal. His date of enlistment is given as 7.4.1894 and of discharge as 27.11.1919. His character certificate states that Frederick hidden served 25 years 238 days. His character was exemplary: sober, honest, intelligent, reliable and trustworthy.
      He is known to have had two children -- Leslie Charles and Stanley James (S47). The first was born in Pretoria, South Africa, in 1909 and Stanley James in Braintree, Essex in 1914.
      Mrs Hidden also showed me the certificate of his death which took place 9 February 1940; he was named Frederick Charles Hidden and was aged 63: his residence at the time was 25 Kingston Road, Southall, Middlesex. During his later years he was employed as groundsman for the Norwood Cricket Club and also a local football club. A witness to his death was his son Stanley James (S47) of 95 Church Drive, Harrow.
      Annie Catherine (A252) the wife of Frederick Charles died 3/1980 in the North Hants District aged 80. Her date of birth is given as 27 April 1885 and this corresponds with her age of 21 at the date of her marriage at Sialkot in 1906. (RGI re 20.0451)
      JOSEPH WILLIAM HIDDEN (J50)
      The RGI records his birth in the first quarter of 1874 Newbury District reg 2c 151. He is assumed to be the son of Thomas (T22) [died in the Newbury Registration District]. J50 is the brother of Frederick Charles Hidden (F30). He is said to have joined the 3rd Hussars and Mrs Iris Hidden has pointed him out in uniform in the wedding photo of his brother F30 in India in 1906. It seems likely that Frederick Charles, who was the younger of the two brothers, purchased his release from the Royal Berkshire Regiment to join the 3rd Hussars to be with his brother.. The Regiment served in the Boer War.
      It seems the 3rd Hussars returned to South Africa, for not only was Frederick's son, Leslie Charles (L40) born there in 1909 (Births from Regimental Registers ref 257.98) but William H. Hidden was born in Pretoria in 1910 (Births from Regimental Registers ref no. 257.82). In each case his father is given as serving in the 3rd Hussars. Other Hidden births from the 3rd Hussars Regimental Registers are: Bessie Hidden (B2) born 1905 at Newbury ref 257.82 and Winifred C. Hidden (W55) born 1912 at Shorncliffe ref 257.82. Shorncliffe was the location of an Army barracks in Kent. The RGI also records the birth of Winifred, in the Elham Registration District of Kent (RGI ref 2a 2067). The mother's surname is Bedell. Since the regimental reference number remains the same for all three births --- Bessie, William H., and Winifred C. it seems probable that they all three were the children of Joseph William; this concurs with Mrs. Iris Hidden's firm statement that William H. and Winifred C. were not brother or sister of her husband Stanley Charles. If this is correct it would seem that the 3rd Hussars served in the Boer War, returned to England or gave home leave to Joseph William c. 1905-6, moved overseas to India 1906 and returned to Britain in 1910. Regimental records should be consulted to confirm this pattern. We have not yet found a record of Joseph William's death [see RGI Bromley Dist 1963 aged 88], nor of the details of his marriage to ---- Bedell [ see RGI Farnham Dist 1904]. Of their children WILLIAM H. (W77) married Olive M. Edgerton in the Surrey SE District 2/1938 (ref 2a 1539). Bessie (B2) married --- Standing in the Godstone District 3/1930 (ref 2a 737). Winifred C. (W55) married ----- Spiers Surrey SE District (ref 2a 1786)

    2. [S17937] Tel Directory UK, Recno:5610 (Reliability: 0).
      [Recno:5610 Yr: 1970 Ref:286 ]
      hidden l c laundry cottage whitchurch (Pangbourne)

    3. [S17937] Tel Directory UK, Recno:6486 (Reliability: 0).
      [Recno:6486 Yr: 1960 ]
      l c hidden laundry cottage whitchurch hill pangbourne

    4. [S17937] Tel Directory UK, Recno:13138 (Reliability: 0).
      [Recno:13138 Yr: 1973 ]
      hidden l c laundry cottage whitchurch hl pangbourne

    5. [S17037] RG Index of Births, Recno:12272 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:12272 Yr: 1909 Qtr:? Dist:pretoria Ref:257/98 ]
      HIDDEN leslie c Pretoria 1909 3rd Huss 257 98

    6. [S17918] Census OR Web sites, Recno:15025.
      [Recno:15025 Yr: 1911 ]
      Registration District Number: 641
      ED, institution, or vessel: South Africa

      Bessie Hidden wife 36 mar7yrs-2children born-2children living Tiverton Devon
      Bessie Hidden dau 6 Newbury Berks
      William Henry Hidden son 1 Transvaal South Africa
      Anne Catherine Hidden wife 24 mar4yrs-1child born-1child living York Yorkshire
      Leslie Charles Hidden son 1 Transvaal South Africa

      Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 34977; Page: 12.
      Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census [database on-line].

    7. .
      see HHv3

    8. [S17038] RG Index of Marriages, Recno:12276 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:12276 Yr: 1906 Qtr:? Ref:64 ]
      1906-10 HIDDEN frederick c Sialkot 1906 64

    9. .
      Southall registry office (HHv3)

    10. [S17038] RG Index of Marriages, Recno:8641 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:8641 Yr: 1934 Qtr:3 Dist:uxbridge Ref:3a/258 ]
      leslie c hidden & mary i w moss uxbridge

    11. [S17038] RG Index of Marriages, Recno:11723 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:11723 Yr: 1947 Qtr:3 Dist:chelsea Ref:5c/835 ]
      hidden leslie c [nancy g] hugill chelsea 5c 835