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james hidden[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]

Male 1730 - 1813  (~ 83 years)


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  • Name james hidden 
    Christened 2 Oct 1730  Inkpen Find all individuals with events at this location  [11
    Gender Male 
    Possessions in W 1781 ( pr 1799) 
    Reference Number J068 
    Buried 8 Oct 1813  Speen Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Person ID I5306  Hidden | Descendants of John Hidden of Hungerford b. bef 1676
    Last Modified 11 Apr 2016 

    Father thomas hidden,   b. Abt 1700,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Mother mary marsh,   c. 6 Apr 1706, Inkpen Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 11 Jun 1774, Kintbury Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Married 6 Nov 1726  Newbury (Lic) Find all individuals with events at this location  [13, 14
    Notes 
    • The licence does not say that he is a bachelor. It is not clear why he purchased a licence, which would seem to have been an unneccessary expense, or why he married in Newbury and not in his own parish.
    Family ID F1687  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 sarah walker,   b. Bef 1742,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 14 Feb 1757  Kintbury Find all individuals with events at this location  [15
    Notes 
    • At the time of the marriage James was living at Speen, the bride's parish was Kintbury. One of the witnesses was Hannah Walker who may have been the bride's sister.
    Children 
     1. mary hidden,   b. Abt 1760,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. james hidden,   c. 23 Nov 1760, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. hannah hidden,   c. 6 Mar 1763, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 10 Mar 1837, High wycombe Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 74 years)
    Last Modified 11 Apr 2016 
    Family ID F1695  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 mary,   b. Bef 1750,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Abt 1764  [16
    Children 
     1. elizabeth hidden,   b. Aft 1750,   bur. 16 Apr 1767, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 15 years)
     2. ann hidden,   c. 11 Aug 1765, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. william hidden,   c. 22 May 1768, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1838, Stockcross (C) Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 69 years)
     4. sarah hidden,   c. 9 Dec 1770, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     5. thomas hidden,   c. 11 Apr 1773, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 13 Jan 1854, Speen (MI) Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 80 years)
     6. letitia hidden,   c. 10 Mar 1776, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1858, Wycombe RGD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 81 years)
     7. charles hidden,   c. 23 Jul 1779, Speen Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1780  (Age ~ 0 years)
    Last Modified 11 Apr 2016 
    Family ID F1694  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • James's date of birth, calculated from the age given at his burial, is 1728 which agrees reasonably well with his date of bapt of 1730.
      He was living in Speen in 1757 when he married Sarah Walker of Kintbury
      They had 3 children together; Mary b abt 1758, James b 1760, and Hannah (H029) b. 1763.
      From 1765 to 1779 baptisms are recorded in Speen of the children of James & Mary Hidden. The assumption is that Sarah died between 1763 & 1765 and that James re-married. This is supported by the will of Hannah which refers to Ann b. 1765 a child of James & Mary, as her sister. However no burial of Sarah has been found, nor the marriage of James & Mary. There is however the burial in Speen of an otherwise unidentified Sarah Hidden in 1813 aged 82, who would be about the same age as James.
      The possibility arises that the two wives of James are actually one and the same, and that she was known locally by both names, or known to one incumbent as Mary and to others as Sarah. There is no gap in the dates of baptism of the children of James, and there is no burial for Sarah in the short interval between his apparent two wives. Also no 2nd marriage has been found for James. The daughters of James speak of each other in their wills as sisters and not as half sisters, or sister-in-law and appear to be very closely attached to one another. It would also explain the otherwise identified Sarah (of about the same age as James) who was buried in Speen in 1813 some 2 months after James' burial.
      James is mentioned in the will of his brother William (W070) dated 1781 and proved 1799.

  • Sources 
    1. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5923 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:5923 Yr: 1757 Parish:speen ]
      banns. 23jan, 30 jan, 3 feb james hidding this parish & sarah walker of the parish of kintbury

    2. [S17279] Probate Abstract PCC, Recno:12527 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:12527 Date: 14 Feb 1799 Ref:PROB11/1319 f118 ]
      The will of william hidden of Highclere co South. victualler. To my dear wife letitia my ready money, securities, stock of liquors in trade, household goods and residue of my estate for use in her life and after her death to be equally divided between my children of her (if any be living); to be equally divided if more than one, or to be one whether son or daughter if only one be living. In default of such issue to my brothers james hidden and thomas hidden, my sister-in-law mary mitcell, my sisters-in-law mary blake and sarah blake and my two nephews thomas cadman and charles cadman to be equally divided between them.
      My dear wife letitia to be sole executrix. Revokes all former wills. Dated 11th July 1781. Signed Wm Hidden (with seal). Wit: thomas meare, john meare
      Codicil: my neice luci king to have an equal share with my other relations (in case my wife die without issue). dated 16th April 1792 Signed Wm Hidden (with seal) Wit: robert holdway, timothy lambden.
      Probate London 14 Feb 1799 to Letitia Hidden widow, relict and sole executix named in the will.

    3. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5893 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5893 bapt Date: 23 Nov 1760 Parish:speen ]
      james son of james & sarah hidden

    4. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5895 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5895 bapt Date: 6 Mar 1763 Parish:speen ]
      hannah dau of james & sarah hiddin

    5. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5896 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5896 bapt Date: 11 Aug 1765 Parish:speen ]
      ann dau of james & mary hiddin

    6. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5897 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5897 bapt Date: 22 May 1768 Parish:speen ]
      william son of james & mary hiddin

    7. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5898 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5898 bapt Date: 9 Dec 1770 Parish:speen ]
      sarah dau of james & mary hiddin

    8. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5899 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5899 bapt Date: 11 Apr 1773 Parish:speen ]
      thomas son of james & mary hidden

    9. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5900 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5900 bapt Date: 10 Mar 1776 Parish:speen ]
      letty dau of james & mary hiddin

    10. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5901 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:5901 bapt Date: 23 Jul 1779 Parish:speen ]
      charles son of james & mary hiddin

    11. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:6922 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:6922 bapt Date: 2 Oct 1730 Parish:inkpen ]
      james son of thomas and mary hidden

    12. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:5932 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:5932 bur Date: 8 Oct 1813 Parish:speen ]
      james hidden benham 85 yrs

    13. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:7353 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:7353 marr Date: 6 Nov 1726 Parish:newbury ]
      thomas clisdell of kinbery and mary mash of inkpen
      [of kintbury in BT]

    14. [S17267] Marr licence bishop of salisbury, Recno:6568 (Reliability: 3).
      [Recno:6568 Date: 6 Oct 1726 Parish:kintbury ]
      thomas chisdall of kintbury berks agr [husbandman] and mary mash of newbury spr for marr at newbury

    15. [S17917] Parish Register OR Original, Recno:9174 (Reliability: 2).
      [Recno:9174 marr Date: 14 Feb 1757 Parish:kintbury ]
      james hidden of speen and sarah walker of this parish. Sign: gm, bm Wit: hannah walker, henry hayes[habit]

    16. .
      hannah bapt as d/o james & sarah in 1764. Ann bapt as d/o james & mary in 1765